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Jan 6, 2017 11:12:56 GMT -5
Post by lorendavies on Jan 6, 2017 11:12:56 GMT -5
Hello Matteo!, I'm fine, thank you !! I think that for the moment in my personal opinion, you should first soak up albums that you have not heard well or have not even started listening to what is your best Pye stage. Remember that the Kinks have almost nothing to do with the Pye with the RCA. The group evolves in an amazing way as the Stones did in those years, with a more musical sound of keyboards, female voices, sounds of metal and musically very diverse. In all its concept a band more compact in the musical arrangements. But to all this, the stage of the Pye is the base and most important of all. Greetings Matteo.
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Jan 6, 2017 12:10:39 GMT -5
Post by uncleson on Jan 6, 2017 12:10:39 GMT -5
Matteo, you are so right, the guitars in Lola vs Powerman do sound darker / heavier then the guitars in Something Else. I suspect that was influenced by other bands that were popular then like Zeppelin and Deep Purple.
Personally I.prefer Something Else. But the great thing about the Kinks is that there is so much in their library for a fan to explore. Add the Ray and Dave solo projects and the library becomes extensive!
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Post by martin53 on Jan 7, 2017 2:45:43 GMT -5
"Lola Versus Powerman And The Moneygoround Part One" is one of my favourite Kinks albums. It’s musically and lyrically very strong; the guitar work is fantastic throughout the whole record and song-wise there is not one single miss! Matteo, I wonder if you could elaborate on your impressions about «Muswell Hillbillies» ?
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Jan 7, 2017 10:53:33 GMT -5
Post by lorendavies on Jan 7, 2017 10:53:33 GMT -5
For me the "Abbey Road" of the Kinks is the "Lola Vs Powerman" is the summit, the apogee of the end of a great stage.
Since I mention the Abbey Road (Beatles) I must say it's the best and most wonderful album I've ever heard.
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Post by matteo on Jan 9, 2017 6:31:33 GMT -5
I think you are right Lorendavies. I will spend some time with the Pye records since they are the foundation upon which the later Kinks records are built. We may have different tastes then ! There certainly are great songs on Abbey Road (I Want You, The End, Golden Slumbers) but I don't think it's the best Beatles album. While there always are weak songs on a Beatles LP, I think that Rubber Soul, Revolver and Magical Mystery Tour are less uneven albums. Then again, Abbey Road has a very different sound from their previous albums: it features darker sounding instruments just like Lola! You are right too Uncleson! I can definitely hear the Zeppelin influence on the guitar sound: it reminds me of Page's guitar tone on You Shook Me for instance. What's funny is that there's a change in Led Zeppelin's sound as well with Physical Graffiti: the sounds got darker with that LP. That's what I really like about the Kinks: it's a long journey but you're sure to find songs you'll love along the way! I may change my point of view after a few more listens, who knows? I have already written about my first impressions about Muswell Hillibillies: I will paste them here and discuss them now that I've spent more time with the record. What I really appreciate about Muswell Hillbilies is that it's its own world. Even if I still think that the songs are a little less inventive melodically-wise than those on Face to Face or Something Else, I found them to be chapters of a good book with none of them being less well written than the others .
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Jan 9, 2017 11:50:23 GMT -5
Post by lorendavies on Jan 9, 2017 11:50:23 GMT -5
Hi Matteo, the accordion is a very French instrument !!!!
I love the melodic songs with accordions, in themes like Michelle, Here, There and Everywhere, Holiday, we can work it Out, among many others ...
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Jan 9, 2017 13:24:02 GMT -5
Post by uncleson on Jan 9, 2017 13:24:02 GMT -5
Hi Matteo, the accordion is a very French instrument !!!!
I love the melodic songs with accordions, in themes like Michelle, Here, There and Everywhere, Holiday, we can work it Out, among many others ... Yes, like Sitting By The Riverside
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Jan 9, 2017 13:26:42 GMT -5
Post by lorendavies on Jan 9, 2017 13:26:42 GMT -5
Hi Matteo, the accordion is a very French instrument !!!!
I love the melodic songs with accordions, in themes like Michelle, Here, There and Everywhere, Holiday, we can work it Out, among many others ... Yes, like Sitting By The Riverside It's true, Uncle! And it looks great !!!
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Jan 13, 2017 9:59:28 GMT -5
Post by lorendavies on Jan 13, 2017 9:59:28 GMT -5
"What I really appreciate about Muswell Hillbilies is that it's its own world." - Interesting point, Matteo! In my case I appreciate Muswell hillbillies because it's a wonderful album lame where you catch it ...
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Jan 14, 2017 8:10:54 GMT -5
Post by matteo on Jan 14, 2017 8:10:54 GMT -5
Hi everybody! Ha ha! It's true, you can find many french songs that use the accordion! I just don't like the timbre of this instrument but all the songs that you have mentionned are superb. I think this proves that stellar songwriting can make me forget about the accordion (I even like its use in Sitting by the Riverside in fact) .
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Jan 14, 2017 14:01:39 GMT -5
Post by uncleson on Jan 14, 2017 14:01:39 GMT -5
Matteo hello! I've always loved the song Sitting by the riverside. One of my favorites.
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Jan 17, 2017 12:12:16 GMT -5
Post by lorendavies on Jan 17, 2017 12:12:16 GMT -5
Matteo hello! I've always loved the song Sitting by the riverside. One of my favorites. Lovely song as was the whole album.
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Post by HollyH on Jan 22, 2017 21:49:34 GMT -5
This is a great discussion! Matteo, you are very perceptive. I see that you value melody, which I do too. The satire of Ray Davies sometimes takes a little longer to warm up to.
I think perhaps Lorendavies gives us a very important key. There are some artists who we can enjoy the first time we listen to them. The Kinks, however, get better upon repeated listening.
I can say to my embarrassment that at one time I did not like the songs "Autumn Almanac" and "Shangri-La," and now they are two of my very favorite tracks.
I believe that Ray Davies' genius as a songwriter is to blend memorable melodies and memorable lyrics. On some albums, he's more concerned with the words. On others, he's more concerned with the melody.
But if you listen repeatedly to these songs, words and melody merge into one. And then the moment comes when you plunge into the deeper communion of words and music.
Don't hurry with this. We have all the time in the world to appreciate the Kinks!
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Post by lorendavies on Jan 30, 2017 10:36:08 GMT -5
Especially in the stage of the RCA is less conventional and more cult, and you need twice as much listening as the other other stages.
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Post by HollyH on Feb 18, 2017 20:54:08 GMT -5
Especially in the stage of the RCA is less conventional and more cult, and you need twice as much listening as the other other stages. That may be why it's my favorite Kinks era!
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