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Post by pebbledashnirvana on Nov 11, 2009 10:36:16 GMT -5
Always had a bit of an issue with Low Budget. I love Sleepwalker and Give the People What They Want but have always struggled with L.B.
Thoughts?
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Post by Smiley on Nov 11, 2009 19:18:37 GMT -5
Hey PDN I had a HUGE problem with LowBudget when it came out. I was expecting something along the lines of what were were listening to with Sleepwalker and Misfits, just a year before. Then the Superman/Low Budget single came out in about April of 79' -- it was amazing. I wasn't ready for the rest of it which came out in July. I really wasn't ready for what I saw on stage that August. Ray had transformed himself and the band in just over a year. No more singalongs, no more talking to the crowd.. it was just a different band. I guess I was just so comfortable with the old one, that it was hard for me to roll with it (easily.) Although I did have fun with it once I broke it in a few hundred times on my turntable and in concert. .. I saw those songs performed live so many times in the years to come that I don't play it often. When Ray camps it up on stage PS... songs NOT liked is a TABOO subject. We had problems with this once before so I doubt folks will fess up.
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Post by pebbledashnirvana on Nov 12, 2009 6:39:23 GMT -5
That's interesting reading about your experience with their low budget stage show. If you see footage of the kinks in 75 it looks like a different band in 79. Haircuts, music, on stage persona etc. But I guess bands move on. That's why it was refreshing to see Ray return to some of his more gentler songs on his solo tour of the mid 90s ... I was amazed when he (finally!) played Village Green, Two Sisters, The Money-go-round. But I don't think fans should be worried about not liking ALL of his output .. we can be healthily discerning and he' played around with different styles .. it's just interesting to know what songs aren't favourites and why ...
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Post by HollyH on Nov 12, 2009 12:20:01 GMT -5
I believe the correct term is "least favorite" albums. I agree with Smiley, Low Budget was quite a shock to my system. But I went even further; I actually stopped buying Kinks albums for a long while after that. I never went to see them in concert, because I thought they had sold out and chosen to become just another arena rock band. Of course, there were other changes in my life influencing a change in taste as well. Eventually I came back to the fold and now when I listen to Low Budget, I can't recall why I didn't like it. ;D But it still doesn't rank with my favorites, and of all the Kinks albums, this is the one that seems most dated to me. Perhaps Ray was trying too hard to be topical. Ironically, in his bid to reach a wider American audience, I think he alienated some long-time American fans who'd loved his quirky Englishness.
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Post by Iñakink on Nov 14, 2009 16:20:08 GMT -5
Muswell Hillbillies ;D
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Post by luis on Nov 15, 2009 6:53:06 GMT -5
¡Muswell Hillbilies!,... Good Lord, Iñaki really wanting to be controverial.
I more or less agree about Low Budget. I enjoy it, but it's a lesser album altogether, and the production sounds so thin today. The funny thing is I love the versions in "Give the people..."
UK Jive is aso a very lesser album for me. Ray is going through the motions and it sounds very artificial.
L
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Post by mrlennie on Nov 15, 2009 8:35:09 GMT -5
Muswell Hillbillies ;D Sinvergüenza strikes again
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Post by Iñakink on Nov 15, 2009 15:47:39 GMT -5
I was only joking. I'd probably choose Low Budget or Word Of Mouth.
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Post by pebbledashnirvana on Dec 2, 2009 10:47:01 GMT -5
Ah you see I thought word of mouth was great .. too hot .. do it again .. good day .. summers gone ..
now a song i've never liked was 'don't forget to dance' ... mind you ive never liked the beatles 'long and winding road' (long and boring song) so maybe I'm not great on ballads.
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Post by uncleson on Dec 2, 2009 14:36:49 GMT -5
I love dont forget to dance and low budget.
have a little problem with UK Jive though...
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Post by Ted on Dec 3, 2009 13:24:02 GMT -5
To be sure, I was disappointed in several Kinks albums when they came out, partly because expectations were so high, partly because it took me longer to get into some of their albums than others, and partly because their albums were very different--and some I appreciated more than others. I was very dissappointed in Low Budget at first, but it later grew on me. Favorite songs now are A Gallon of Gas and Low Budget. My first reaction was that they had rushed an album out on a shoestring budget; I couldn't hear what Ray was shouting on the opening cut; I thought the riff in Captain America sounded too much like Jumpin Jack Flash; the melody riff in the closer (Moving Pictures) reminded me too much of "Sugar Pie Honey Bun"; and Superman had a near disco beat. But a year or so later the versions on "One for the Road" made me appreciate the songs more, and I began exercising at home to loud Rock and Rol l-- this album found a place.
Muswell Hillbillies is probably my favorite overall now, but I was disappointed in it when it came out. After Arthur and Lola, I was looking for a different sound. But it really grew on me.
Albums like Preservation (1 and 2), Sleepwalker, and Phobia I liked right away. Still favorites.
Ted
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Post by franklima on Dec 3, 2009 22:13:47 GMT -5
With The Kinks and Ray everything is relitive, sure there are albums, songs or periods of the kinks career or solo Ray that I like better then others but when someone speaks to your soul like Ray has done to me for the past 45 years there is and never could be anything I don't like. It's hard to explain and if I had to no one would understand anyway. He has never let me down or disappointed me, and I've said this before, if I had to only listen to one album for the rest of my life, I'd pick my least favorite from Ray and or the kinks over my favorite from any other artist.
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Post by HollyH on Dec 4, 2009 12:41:07 GMT -5
Okay, Frank, so tell us something we DON'T know. ;D
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Post by donl on Dec 4, 2009 13:08:22 GMT -5
I really do not care for think visual and phobia. i am not a fan of the late period almost metal sounding kinks. with the exception of scattered only a dream and the informer phobia for me is a disappointment and i haven't played TV in so long i can only think of rock and roll cities as the high point for that one. the later period kinks were over produced to my ears which i think now looking back was an attempt to garner more airplay. i like the more underproduced,almost intimate sounding records of which sleepwalker and parts of misfits were the last of.
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Post by frankbrown on Dec 4, 2009 16:05:56 GMT -5
LOW BUDGET, GREAT ALBUM,THE KINKS BECOME A GREAT BAND,A TIGHT BAND...... WHO SAID THEY WERE LOOSE, LOTS OF PEOPLE DID HERE IN THE UK, HOW WRONG THEY WERE.
MY SON IS BORN, GOD HE IS NOW 30......
FRANK.
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