NEW KINKS BOX SET INFO !

[franklima]

THANKS TO NEIL OTTENSTEIN FOR THIS IN A SPECIAL EDITION OF THE KPS DIGEST JUST OUT!

No time for a full digest, but I wanted to pass this on.

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:56:15 +0100
From: David Mayall <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Kinks Box Set details announced

I've just seen the following Universal press release announcing the contents of the Kinks box set. Due for release in UK 1 December. I don't know if this is just the UK or worldwide. UK price £42.99 or thereabouts.

Some interesting tracks especially on Disc 5.

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This is the first ever Kinks box set in the bands 40 year plus history. It
has been compiled with the help of Ray Davies and contains over 100 tracks
over 6 CD’s, around a third of which are unreleased or are new to CD.

Housed in a lift lid classic style box

Includes Six CDs, 60-Page Booklet With Ray Davies IntroThe Booklet: Contains
interviews with all band members. Supplemented with rare photos /
memorabilia / hand-written lyrics, Band etc.
Time Line / Diary Illustrated Discography by Doug Himen (rare album and
singles covers)

Track Listing:
Disc 1 -
1. Brian Matthew Introduces The Kinks
2. You Really Got Me
3. I'm A Hog For You Baby
4. I Believed You
5. Long Tall Sally
6. I Don't Need You Anymore
7. Stop Your Sobbing
8. I Gotta Move
9. Don't Ever Let Me Go Demo
10. All Day And All Of The Night
11. Tired Of Waiting For You
12. Come On Now Outake with false start
13. There Is A New World Opening For Me Kassner Publishing Demo
14. Everybody's Gonna Be Happy
15. Who'll Be The Next In Line Demo
16. Time Will Tell
17. Set Me Free
18. I Need You
19. See My Friend
20. Wait Till The Summer Comes Along
21. I Go To Sleep
22. A Little Bit Of Sunlight Kassner Publishing Demo
23. This I Know Demo
24. A Well Respected Man
25. This Strange Effect
26. Milk Cow Blues
27. Ring The Bells
28. I'm On An Island
29. Till The End Of The Day
30. Where Have All The Good Times Gone
31. All Night Stand Demo
32. And I Will Love You
33. Sittin' On My Sofa

Disc 2
1. Dedicated Follower Of Fashion Alternate Stereo Take
2. She's Got Everything
3. Mr. Reporter Ray Vocal
4. Sunny Afternoon
5. I'm Not Like Everybody Else
6. This Is Where I Belong
7. Rosie Won't You Please Come Home
8. Too Much On My Mind
9. Session Man
10. End Of The Season
11. Dead End Street Alternate Version - early 1966
12. Village Green
13. Two Sisters
14. David Watts
15. Mr. Pleasant
16. Waterloo Sunset Mono Mix
17. Death Of A Clown
18. Lavender Hill
19. Good Luck Charm BBC Radio Recording
20. Autumn Almanac
21. Susannah's Still Alive
22. Animal Farm
23. Rosemary Rose
24. Berkeley Mews
25. Lincoln County
26. Picture Book
27. Days
28. Misty Water

Disc 3
1. Love Me Till The Sun Shines
2. The Village Green Preservation Society
3. Big Sky
4. King Kong
5. Drivin'
6. Some Mother's Son
7. Victoria
8. Shangri-La
9. Arthur
10. Got To Be Free
11. Lola Mono Single Version
12. Get Back In The Line
13. The Moneygoround
14. Strangers
15. Apeman
16. God's Children
17. The Way Love Used To Be
18. Moments
19. Muswell Hillbilly
20. Oklahoma USA
21. Twentieth Century Man
22. Here Come The People In Grey


Disc 4
1. Skin And Bone
2. Alcohol Live
3. Celluloid Heroes
4. Sitting in My Hotel
5. Supersonic Rocket Ship
6. You Don't Know My Name
7. One Of The Survivors
8. Sitting In The Midday Sun
9. Sweet Lady Genevieve
10. Daylight
11. Mirror Of Love
12. Artificial Man
13. Preservation US Single
14. Slum Kids Live
15. Holiday Romance
16. Face In The Crowd
17. No More Looking Back
18. Sleepwalker
19. The Poseur

Disc 5
1. Sleepless Night
2. Father Christmas
3. Misfits
4. A Rock 'N Roll Fantasy
5. Little Bit Of Emotion
6. Attitude
7. Hidden Quality
8. A Gallon of Gas
9. Catch Me Now I'm Falling
10. Nuclear Love
11. Duke
12. Maybe I Love You
13. Stolen Away Your Heart
14. Low Budget
15. Better Things
16. Destroyer
17. Yo-Yo
18. Art Lover
19. Long Distance

Disc 6
1. Heart of Gold
2. Come Dancing Demo Remix
3. State Of Confusion
4. Do It Again
5. Living On A Thin Line
6. Summer's Gone Extended Mix
7. How Are You
8. The Road
9. Million Pound Semi Detached
10. Down All The Days (To 1992)
11. The Informer
12. Phobia
13. Only A Dream
14. Drift Away
15. Scattered
16. Do You Remember Walter
17. To The Bone Demo


First Ever Kinks Box Set, Released December 1st on Universal
The Kinks return in December with ‘Picture Book’: the ultimate Kinks
kollection. Compiled with the help of Ray Davies, ‘Picture Book’ is a six CD
box set of rarities, live versions and classic originals celebrating one of
one of Britain’s most successful and influential bands.
Featuring the songwriting genius of Ray Davies and the guitar virtuosity of
brother Dave, hits like ‘You Really Got Me’, ‘Lola’, ‘Waterloo Sunset’, ‘All
Day And All Of The Night’ and ‘Sunny Afternoon’ not only defined British
cool in the sixties and seventies, but also cemented the band’s place in
Rock ‘n’ Roll mythology. ‘Picture Book’ is the first ever Kinks box set,
chronicling the band’s 40 year career over six chronologically-ordered CDs
and one 60-page, full colour booklet. Each disc deals with a particular
chapter in the band’s history, from their 1964 breakthrough onwards, while
the booklet features a full retelling of the Kinks story penned by esteemed
rock critic Peter Doggett.

The booklet also includes a personal introduction by Ray Davies, as well as
a Kinks timeline and never before seen photos.
Beautifully packaged in a classic, lift-lid style box, ‘Picture Book’
features well over a hundred tracks - a third of which are previously
unreleased or new to CD. These include: Rare Demos, Mono Versions and
Alternate Mixes (inc. early demos recorded as The Ravens; mono single
versions of ‘Waterloo Sunset’, ‘Lola’ & ‘Apeman’; and previously unreleased
versions of ‘Dedicated Follower of Fashion’ and ‘Dead End Street’)
Archived BBC Television & Session Material (inc. a televised 1964
introduction by Brian Matthew, and session versions of ‘This Strange Effect’
and ‘Love Me Til The Sun Shines’) Live Renditions (inc. live versions of
‘Slum Kids’, ‘Alcohol’ & ‘Low Budget’)
All these feature alongside the classic originals, as ‘Picture Book’
revisits such classic albums as ‘The Kinks’, ‘Face To Face’, ‘The Kinks Are
The Village Green Preservation Society’ and ‘Arthur’.
(Universal)

[donl]

i now know what i want for christmas!i wish there was more live stuff but i'm not complainning, now all we need is a comprehensive dvd!!

[franklima]

I brought a friend of mine Marianne Spellman that use to take photo's for the kinks and knew Ray and Dave back then in the late 70's to see Ray backstage in Seattle a few months ago and she had all these great photo's that she showed Ray and he wanted to use them for the box set and wanted her to send them to KONK and I just heard from her that some did 2 concert photo's and a few rare b/w shots that she showed me and Ray in Seattle.

[tourist]

I can't wait to have this box set!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kinkcan]

I hope we'll have it in Canada before Christmas.

[Smiley]

We can mail you one!!
Very exciting news. Really looking forward to the Picture book-let!!!!

[Iñakink]

Sept 23, 2008 15:52:37 GMT -5 donl said:

i now know what i want for christmas!i wish there was more live stuff but i'm not complainning, now all we need is a comprehensive dvd!!

A 6-DVD set. ;D

[Iñakink]

By the way, looking at the list I see that Village Green is placed between the Something Else songs. Maybe it's finally that demo that was left out from the 3CD-edition of VGPS?

[HollyH]

Sept 23, 2008 15:52:37 GMT -5 donl said:

i now know what i want for christmas!i wish there was more live stuff but i'm not complainning, now all we need is a comprehensive dvd!!

I am so with you, donl.

I'd heard that this box set was coming, and I (prudently) contained my excitement. But now that I've seen the track list, I am so juiced I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!

[noisyroom]

anyone know the answers to these questions from my brother?

will they use mono versions of trax recorded in mono?

not the crappy HISSY re-processed for stereo versions?

(I seem to remember that second album thru face to face were mono recordings-

first album and something else on were recorded in stereo??)

just sayin’ – details details….

I wonder what kind of multi trax were used for those early recordings?

Is it possible to mix better “stereo” versions now with todays technology?

Or was everything done live to one track or bounced down to one track in the recording process resulting in a one track mono master???

is there a tome detailing the recording processes for each album and how the equipment evolved during their career?

There is a great soft machine/wyatt book that details every live performance they ever did – who was in the lineup (constantly changing) what songs were performed – and also every recording session and what songs recorded and who played what on them – fascinating stuff for a freak like me!



I wish there would be a vinyl version too!

Or maybe a different vinyl set compiling just the unissued material?

[lanius]

Russell Smith has added a few corrections to the track list at the Ray Davies forum:

"Come On Now" consists of three alternate session takes.

"Dead End Street" is the original alternate version with organ in lieu of trombone.

"Good Luck Charm" will be the 1967 studio version, not the BBC recording.

"Gallon of Gas" is a previously unreleased version.

Sept 24, 2008 3:43:44 GMT -5 Iñakink said:

By the way, looking at the list I see that Village Green is placed between the Something Else songs. Maybe it's finally that demo that was left out from the 3CD-edition of VGPS?

"Village Green" was originally released (in continental Europe) before Something Else. I expect it'll be the standard studio version.

[lanius]

NoisyRoom: The recording equipment used by the Kinks varied widely throughout their career. To stick to the Pye albums, their debut was mostly recorded to 3-track; Kinda Kinks and Kontroversy were 1-track; Face to Face was mostly 3-track again; Kelvin Hall, Something Else, and Village Green were generally 4-track; Arthur was 8-track; and Lola and Percy were 16-track.

The 1-track recordings can't be released in true stereo, of course, so Kinda Kinks and Kontroversy have only ever been released on CD in mono. (Back in the day there were some hideous-sounding fake-stereo mixes on vinyl.)

Their first album and the five albums from Face to Face through Arthur were originally released in both mono and stereo mixes. Starting with Lola only stereo LPs were released, although a few songs were also mixed to mono for singles.

I'm not sure what your brother means by "crappy HISSY re-processed for stereo versions." The stereo mixes used on the various CD issues are the original 1960s stereo mixes*, and in general they don't sound any hissier than the mono mixes. Now, the mono mastering done by Castle Essential in 1998 — i.e., the mastering used on the reissues of Pye albums with bonus tracks — was often less hissy than previous stereo CDs of the same material. But that's not because of the mono mixes. It's because Castle used digital noise reduction that removed the tape hiss, but simultaneously removed any natural decay from the guitars and percussion, giving the songs a rinky-dink toy-instrument feel. Your mileage may vary; I prefer the tape hiss.

The early stereo mixes often sounded kind of odd — sometimes they threw the lead vocals off into the right channel, sometimes they sounded like mono with a few panning effects. If the multi-tracks survived, then it would indeed be possible to mix new stereo versions, and that's just what was done with the "Johnny Thunder" stereo remix on the Village Green deluxe edition. But most of those multi-tracks, alas, are thought to be destroyed, though "Sunny Afternoon" and a few others probably survive.

There is a book that details their recording sessions: Doug Hinman's The Kinks: All Day and All of the Night, which I recommend highly.

As far as I know, they haven't announced yet which mixes will be used on the box set except for the details already given in franklima's first post.

*Except for "Tin Soldier Man" and "Situation Vacant." The Reprise CD of Something Else uses the original stereo mixes, but all other stereo CDs use 1980s remixes.

[noisyroom]

wow, lanius, thanks so much for your information! you certainly know your stuff!

[Iñakink]

Thanks for posting Lanius!

[powerman]

So much there that I didn't know, thanks for sharing lanius.