Keep On The Sunny Side
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Post by Keep On The Sunny Side on Apr 20, 2007 12:07:43 GMT -5
who cares what Ray thinks about it? We care because we care about Ray and wish to support him and to respect his wishes.
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Post by uncleson on Apr 20, 2007 14:14:47 GMT -5
You are correct. Now that it is no longer sanctioned by Ray, it is just a message board.
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Post by Iñakink on Apr 20, 2007 17:49:27 GMT -5
It's beyond belief that any fan (or disciple) would continue to defend or support that board after that. (...) The moderator and the fans here are trying to make this place into a positive online community. I don't think this kind of posts attacking some fans make this place a positive community. Thanks for not considering real fans and attacking the people who post there. I'm sorry but here I'm reading things much worse than any one I've seen in the grey forum, so I've just decided I leave both places, this one and the grey one. I have enough problems in my life to keep caring about this good-forum/bad-forum good-fans/bad-fans sh*t. I'm sorry for all the friends I have here, but I'm sure soon I'll see them in a new place. Love to all the Real Kool Kinks fans and friends, who in fact are most of you, and thanks for everything.
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Post by julia87 on Apr 20, 2007 18:32:24 GMT -5
This is my first ever post on this forum (if I recall correctly), and I make it only because I see I need to make a point, not because I feel any need to explain my lack of interest towards this "sunny side" or the reasons why I prefer posting to the grey forum.
Compared to many of you, I'm considered a relatively new member on these Ray Davies boards. I came over from Dave's board to find a heck of a community of people with common interests and a good group spirit. Well, that's what it seemed on the outside. Apparently there was some undercurrent I was blind to as a newbie, for 'till this day I don't believe for a second that it was the admin on the grey board or what Frank said Ray said (see how stupid that sounds?). No one even tried to solve any of it by common sense or rationalizing, but jumped into actions I felt tore the community apart. I don't think there's justifying that, and I think it completely takes away all excuses made about admins or what Ray may or may not have said. It just showed a saddening lack of respect towards what had been built. Especially since no one was willing to talk about the things they said were the reasons. And I even gave it the benefit of the doubt, until I heard of these anonymous attacks towards people. Now I really believe there are malicious people among us. That proves it. Some cowardly creatures on an ego-trip making big posts, moralising others and feeling so big about themselves and yet too scared to say their true thoughts under their own names. I can't even tell you how sick to my stomach that makes me, how low I think that is and how LITTLE there is for these people to feel good about themselves for. Disgusting! Maggots! Tiny little petty fungus growing on humanity!
And by the way. I heard about what Ray had said by accident, while talking to another member. There was no announcement made anywhere. None of you ever even said it in the grey board, which happened to be the only one I read. No formal or informal announcement was made by Ray or anyone who I trust to speak for him. Yes, you heard me.
So excuse me while I go back to the non-fans on the damned gray board who's members will burn in Hell suffering the pains you righteous ones who haven't got the nerve to speak your mind in public won't have to suffer.
I'm in no mission of peace here, as you might have guessed. I'm just plain pissed off and not afraid to say so.
And I hope I'll meet all the lovely people on any other place than this. I miss you and I hope the new, blue grounds will be a place where you'll feel comfortable again.
Yours, Julia
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Post by TomT on Apr 20, 2007 19:58:29 GMT -5
I see I need to make a point, not because I feel any need to explain my lack of interest towards this "sunny side" or the reasons why I prefer posting to the grey forum. Lets get one thing straight here. The "Sunny Side" thread was made when the RFGoggin $hit was going on on the gray board. Also when Martin made HIS lovely comments about Ray. That's all it was. Got that? The gray board is fine now. Seems very peaceful. You will find peace there. Peace be with you.
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Post by julia87 on Apr 20, 2007 20:13:40 GMT -5
Let's face it, it was still very pleasuring for me to make irony of it.
Yes, I see how this is a peaceful haven. I'm sorry but I think I'll leave it to you. May the force be with you.
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Post by ilesofsmiles on Apr 20, 2007 20:27:28 GMT -5
I see I need to make a point, not because I feel any need to explain my lack of interest toward this "sunny side" or the reasons why I prefer posting to the grey forum. Lets get one thing straight here. The "Sunny Side" thread was made when the RFGoggin $hit was going on on the gray board. Also when Martin made HIS lovely comments about Ray. That's all it was. Got that? The gray board is fine now. Seems very peaceful. You will find peace there. Peace be with you. Thank you TT for reiterating that for me. When I made this thread, quite a few week ago, their were dark days on the other forum. It seems to be interpreted in a different vein now, one in which it WAS NOT intended!. I am very sorry it is viewed this way. I am also sorry that I can not delete it now. I started this thread to celebrate all the KinKy friends who found their way here. Nothing more. It was not meant for any other purpose. If it has been used or interpreted that way -- forgive me. May we find happiness again in the future. ilesofsmiles
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Post by julia87 on Apr 20, 2007 20:37:27 GMT -5
Yes, that is a serious issue...
Seriously, THAT'S the bit you tangle on? The ironic remark on the sunny side? I understand it's very upsetting to think you've been misunderstood, but oh my god, come on...
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Post by HollyH on Apr 20, 2007 22:31:03 GMT -5
The rfgoggin business was what ruined the gray board for me -- and he's still posting there. Nothing in this thread is anywhere near as upsetting as his aggressive behavior was. People on the gray board more or less ignore him these days, and that keeps the damage contained. But it still makes me a little gun-shy.
I like this place. I have fun here. I don't really care if it's official. But it all gets spoiled when anonymous guests post provoking messages. I love Ray and his music, but should my admiration be questioned just because I visit a certain internet site? That's just silly. If there's anybody on earth who believes in individual choice it's Raymond Douglas Davies.
Probably the finest person in the entire RDD community is Inakink -- and look what all this petty squabble has done: it's driven him away. I will bet you a million pounds that THAT is not Ray Davies' intention.
Julia, most of the dissension happened because of these anonymous posts. We have suggested to the admin here that guests not be allowed to post. I think this thread proves our point.
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Post by julia87 on Apr 20, 2007 22:42:22 GMT -5
Holly, smart as always. Thank you.
But i must point out that I was mainly upset about the anonymous posters and how it made me feel.
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davek
Session Man
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Post by davek on Apr 20, 2007 22:47:02 GMT -5
You are right on all accounts Holly ;D --especially on Inaki.
An added benefit of not providing guests with posting priviliges is that there will be no new spam.
Mostly, I come here to Make Stories, which is a totally different kind of nonsense. ;D .
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Post by Wakeup on Apr 21, 2007 3:22:00 GMT -5
Look, I'm one of the class clowns here and it's not in the norm for me to chime in on the weightier issues. However, in the past few days I have been alarmed by some disturbing talk on this board which can only be viewed as inflammatory and personally insulting to many. That is where I have to back off and call it as I see it. This Inter-board bashing has got to stop, and yet it was quite shocking watching it snowball nearly by the minute. It seems that some people are naturally disposed to creating friction and dissension. It's in their nature somehow. God bless us everyone, but I can't hang with it. I'll be away from here unless and until I'm assured that this behavior is gone for good. Blessings
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Post by franklima on Apr 21, 2007 5:11:12 GMT -5
If I had a hammer I'd hammer the spammers
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Post by nicola6 on Apr 21, 2007 10:33:28 GMT -5
...I like this place. I have fun here. I don't really care if it's official. But it all gets spoiled when anonymous guests post provoking messages. I love Ray and his music, but should my admiration be questioned just because I visit a certain internet site? That's just silly. If there's anybody on earth who believes in individual choice it's Raymond Douglas Davies. Probably the finest person in the entire RDD community is Inakink -- and look what all this petty squabble has done: it's driven him away. I will bet you a million pounds that THAT is not Ray Davies' intention. Well said Holly, you've said it for many of us. I'm especially sad to see Inaki leave. I agree that he is a fine person - as well as an enthusiastic Kinks fan.
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Post by guest on Apr 21, 2007 14:05:59 GMT -5
Maybe if you all talked about music a bit more here........
of between this and gray board, there is not as much music talk here as on there....
this place makes no sense now.
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