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Post by ilesofsmiles on Mar 7, 2007 19:28:31 GMT -5
...But if Martin is in a so-called official capacity, and I can't trust him to fulfill that capacity responsibly, then I don't feel entirely comfortable in that environment. If he had the health of the forum in mind, he'd have tried to rein in rfg instead of egging him on. So I'm wary. This is my concern, too. Martin's use of the board as a vendetta against Ray bothers me far more than the poison Goggin is spewing. If we got rid of Goggin, we would still be supporting a board that, at its core, is hostile to Ray. I don't feel good about doing that. I agree with this statement whole heartedly.. I have spoken my peace. I wish them all healing in the chaos they created. My Lazyboy needs reclining space, can I join you Nic? ;D
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Beam me to the final frontier Scotty.
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Post by bones on Mar 7, 2007 21:09:21 GMT -5
I must admit, I do feel like crap currently. After all it was me who introduced a group of (then kids) including RFG on to the Kinks back in the early/mid 70's in the Roslindale section of Boston. But I shouldn't be so harsh on myself, he probably would have found out about them eventually. Although there is that slight chance that he might never had found them. Oh well....
As far as Martin is concerned, I gotta agree with Holly, Nicola and Iles. First off, Martin egging Goggin on. Then Martin actually calling Ray a petty tyrant, and he's going to administer Ray (the tyrant's) forum?? Doesn't work for me. As long as Martin is admin things will never be right over there IMO. DaveK mentions that RFG will go away. Well he always does, for a while, only to eventually return with more divisive bullnuts. Goggin has turned into a friggin lunatic, he will always be back for more. I've tried to use my aquaintence with him to soothe him a bit, mellow him out maybe, succeeded a little at first, but his curent level of obviuos jealousy and bitterness, (also being stoked by admin Martin) have reached new heights. In his mind he could not possibly be wrong, but everybody else is. I still do have empathy for him as I always have, because I know he is not dealing with a full deck upstairs. But I've had enough of his condescending ways and lack of any sort of an idea about compromise. Example: he ridiculed me when I asked him if he had heard Ray's latest masterpiece OPL (yes I believe it approaches the masterpiece category!) yet he hadn't even heard the album at that point. He said how could it possibly be a masterpiece without Dave's input. Now I still love Dave and always will, but I'll bet every one of you would agree that Ray can compose a masterpiece on his own if he so desires. RG dismissed Ray's work without even listening to it once (and it DOES get better with repeated listenings as is usual with most Kink recordings). I have to chalk his dismissall off as just pure bitterness and loathing towards Ray. Bottom line, I'm sick of his bullnuts and will have no more of it.
The sad part is that I truly love the old board. I've made so many good friends over there and hope to see them there. I see Mr Malley checked in, no posts, but on his profile he lists his age as 107. Typical Bill. I certainly hope he and other countless friends make their way over here to start anew without any antagonistic not a very nice persons to contend with. I'll probably check the old board out periodically, until (IMO) it ultimately fizzles out; I just believe it wont survive with all that unchecked negativity. I might even post now and then, birthdays etc.
With that being said, I certainly hope our admin here weeds out people hellbent on negativity.
Thanks, Tim
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Post by HollyH on Mar 7, 2007 21:21:28 GMT -5
NOBODY blames you for Goggin, Tim!! Jeez, I'm just glad you were able to defuse his rancour a little from time to time.
I'm glad you're here and I think we share the same hopes for preserving the old spirit. The whole scenario is so much like Preservation, I have to laugh. Goggin is Mr Black, all self-righteous and purer-than-thou -- and I guess that would make #2 a bit like Flash, hellbent on Demolition. Where oh where is love?
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Post by TAG on Mar 7, 2007 21:54:54 GMT -5
Yeah Bones, everything gonna be alright.
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Post by ilesofsmiles on Mar 7, 2007 21:57:26 GMT -5
H2 I was justing writing to another fellow member about the same seniero.. I'm Watching it all go on -- watching it all go wrong. Mr. Flash has taken over the simple village..
Can this be the end? Can this be the swan song? The final elbow? I will not go. The people need me.
Men like you will always come and go, but the people will go on forever.
Bones "we need you"
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Post by nicola6 on Mar 7, 2007 23:17:02 GMT -5
I can only echo what everyone else has said, Bones. I'm very glad that you're here.
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Post by nicola6 on Mar 7, 2007 23:20:58 GMT -5
This is my concern, too. Martin's use of the board as a vendetta against Ray bothers me far more than the poison Goggin is spewing. If we got rid of Goggin, we would still be supporting a board that, at its core, is hostile to Ray. I don't feel good about doing that. I agree with this statement whole heartedly.. I have spoken my peace. I wish them all healing in the chaos they created. My Lazyboy needs reclining space, can I join you Nic? ;D Of course. I have a warehouse of recliners for you to choose from.
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Post by HollyH on Mar 7, 2007 23:22:12 GMT -5
Not to mention all the well-basted lawn chairs.
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Post by nicola6 on Mar 7, 2007 23:23:17 GMT -5
Some things last forever.
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Post by ilesofsmiles on Mar 7, 2007 23:26:46 GMT -5
Looks like it's just us gals
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Post by HollyH on Mar 7, 2007 23:36:55 GMT -5
Excellent!! Now we can put each other's hair up in pincurls and swap photos of Van Johnson.
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Post by ilesofsmiles on Mar 7, 2007 23:43:27 GMT -5
Van Johnson.. Howz' about someone a little cuter
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Post by HollyH on Mar 7, 2007 23:47:19 GMT -5
Darn! I can't offload these Van Johnson pics on anybody.
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Post by ilesofsmiles on Mar 8, 2007 0:25:01 GMT -5
I can be bought PS.. H2 please increase the size of your AVATAR to 100x100.. that piccie needs to be bigger. Still can't find my spex
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Post by billmalley on Mar 8, 2007 0:43:26 GMT -5
hollyh is right, Mr. Timmy. Nobody blames you for pariahdise - or whatever his name is right now. I stopped posting over there because I knew what was coming when he re-appeared and was given the Royal Welcome. I'm proud of everybody's good intentions for wanting to include him, but I knew you'd all end up getting knifed for it and there was nothing I could do, so I left. I've had a ton of experience with 'substance abuser'-types in my life and I've learned a few things along the way about them. First thing is: Turn around and walk away. FAST. Second thing is: DON'T LOOK BACK.
I'm feeling a little karma-deficient right now. Would somebody please 'do me' a coupla times? Thank you.
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