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Post by bamajohn1 on Sept 23, 2010 18:49:40 GMT -5
Essential Kinks Vol. 5
Hard Rock 1977 to present
1. Life Goes On 1977 2. A Rock N' Roll Fantasy 1978 3. Misfits 1978 4. A Little Bit of Emotion 1979 5. Better Things 1981 6. Come Dancing 1983 7. Don't Forget To Dance 1983 8. Heart of Gold 1983 9. Living On A Thin Line 1984 10. When You Were A Child 1986 11. How Do I Get Close 1989 12. Hatred (A Duet) 1993 13. Still Searching 1993 14. Scattered 1993 15. The Informer 1993 16. To The Bone 1995 17. Animal 1993 18. Run Away From Time (Ray solo) 2006
I think 'Big Sky' is probably a notable omission. The song isn't one of my favorites, so there you are.
Shangri La opening Vol. 3 is a bit out of place; it's included in the 70s era stuff because I wanted to get Lola and Apeman in with the 60s Britpop. Shangri La is a long song so I bumped it later to get all the songs I could on Vol. 2 LOL!
I've made comprehensive boxes/anthologies like this for many artists. I think my Johnny Cash cassette box eventually hit 11 tapes/volumes ha ha.
I hope this will help guide you in some way!
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Post by bamajohn1 on Sept 23, 2010 18:51:49 GMT -5
PS: Essential Kinks Vol. 5 is supposed to be titled 'Britpop 1977 to present'. Sorry about the mistake.
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Post by bamajohn1 on Sept 23, 2010 18:59:34 GMT -5
Track 2 The Hard Way on Vol. 5 should have the year 1976, not 1986. LOLA (Coca Cola) is 1970. The First Time We Fall In Love is 1976.
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Post by bamajohn1 on Sept 23, 2010 19:06:45 GMT -5
Oops, 'The Hard Way' is on Vol. 4, Hard Rock 1975 to present. BTW, The Knack did a faithful and fairly good cover of The Hard Way. The Jam's cover of 'David Watts' and The Pretender's covers of 'Stop Your Sobbin' and 'I Go To Sleep' are often lauded, but I think a sleeper (pun intended) Kinks kover is the Romantics rendition of 'She's Got Everything'. 'She's Got Everything' is a later 60s rocker more in tune with the style of the 1964/65 Kinks.
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Post by HollyH on Sept 24, 2010 12:43:26 GMT -5
Excellent compilation, bj -- despite the incomprehensible omission of Big Sky...
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Post by sleepwalker24 on Sept 25, 2010 4:53:41 GMT -5
I love Big Sky! It's a brilliant song,i would want to include it if i made a compilation
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Post by martin53 on Sept 25, 2010 7:02:42 GMT -5
Seconded, Sleepwalker!
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Post by sleepwalker24 on Sept 25, 2010 9:18:44 GMT -5
Glad you agree with me martin!
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Post by bamajohn1 on Sept 27, 2010 1:19:40 GMT -5
Thanks hollyh, sleepwalker24, and martin53. This was my initial foray into this forum. I've never been amongst a throng of Kink's lovers like this, although the old Beatles vs Stones board on rollingstone.com was starting to answer wtih 'well, the Kinks, of course'.
It's a tricky thing because I'm working with the 80 minute limit (really 79 if you don't want them to skip toward the end) of a cdr, so I'd have to bump a song to add 'Big Sky'. Cassettes held 90 minutes (actually more like 47 to 48 minutes a side) so I used to add more songs to each volume while trying to keep it 'koncise'. I would also probably try to work a Dave solo song from his 80s records in there somewhere too.
Hollyh, as a big Basher fan, I love your flashing avatar. I have all his solo records (and a Brinsley Schwartz best of). I have on my list to get the 2cd Quiet Please set because I'd like to have those old songs in remastered form. I loved it when he was married to Carlene Carter (huge fan of hers too); they were the new wave supercouple kind of like Johnny Cash's actual daughter Rosanne and Rodney Crowell were the cool country couple in the 80s.
I mentioned on the Kink covers thread that I had read Ian Gomm (and I suppose Nick Lowe) was inspired to write 'Cruel to Be Kind' after hearing that line in the 'The Hard Way'.
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Post by sleepwalker24 on Sept 27, 2010 5:03:20 GMT -5
Don't worry about it bamajohn We all have our favourite Kinks songs,personally i think i'd really struggle to make a compilation,theres so many songs to choose from.If i did make one im sure i'd omit Kinks songs that other fans would want to include
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Post by bamajohn1 on Sept 27, 2010 12:22:25 GMT -5
Sleepwalker24, thanks for assuaging my growing phobia of song displacement syndrome ha!
I think 'Plastic Man' and 'Mr. Pleasant' would be my two candidates to be bumped but one of my goals is to include all charted Brit and US singles and 'Plastic Man' charted Top 30 in Britain and 'Mr. Pleasant' was Top 80 in the US (Top 65 in Cashbox). It's a toss up but I kind of like the hilarious mockery of Plastic Man a wee bit more.
Seriously, it's great to have found this great site!
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Post by martin53 on Sept 27, 2010 14:54:54 GMT -5
It's just a thought but I would drop all the songs by Ray simply due to the fact that your "Essential Kinks Compilation" is supposed to show the mere group effort. The song "Big Sky" can therefore be included.
Congratulations to your compilation by the way, it must have been very difficult to set it up.
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Post by HollyH on Sept 28, 2010 20:17:13 GMT -5
A "Labour of Love," indeed! And BTW I was only teasing you about "Big Sky" -- I think that any song you elected to cut would inspire howls of protests from the Kinks faithful here. But you have found your tribe now, and we're glad to have you among us.
Thanks for noticing my avatar. I am a devoted Nick Lowe fan -- going to see him a few times next month when he tours the States. And I can't wait!
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Post by bamajohn1 on Sept 29, 2010 12:39:01 GMT -5
Labour of Love, Labour of Lust. I haven't really thought about that possible parallel. Hmm Hollyh, Dave Davies unleashing his inner Hendrix a la L. of Love came out in 1983 so maybe he was reversely inspired by the Basher with the song title. Did I mention that Labour of Lust is a perfect album, even more Pure Pop for Now People than the said prior release (or more Jesus of Cool for the Brits LOL). It's criminal that disc is out of print and has been denting folks wallets for $70 plus for years.
Thanks Martin for the suggestion. If you notice, I tried to do that set in rough chronological order by phase/style. Bumping Ray solo would mean I'd add a later period Kinks song. 'Big Sky' belongs on my Vol. 2, which is possibly the greatest disc of music I've ever heard, by the way. Not my doing, of course, it's the Muswell lads' fault ha. I would look at bumping Plastic Man or Mr. Pleasant if I ever so chose to make like a tailor and do some alterations (inside pun intended; me last name is Taylor).
I've been thinking about starting a thread about underrated performers whose music I've come to collect over the years. The Kinks have always been identified as the most underrated band who was actually popular, whilst The Velvet Underground is mentioned at the most underrated who was never popular except to those who formed their own bands as a result of being inspired by VU. Nick Lowe is underrated for his solo work (hence, still not in the Rock Hall of Fame), and many others come to mind such as Charlie Rich (not just a countrypolitan, but an amazing soul & rockabilly singer & jazz pianist I tell you; Dylan's fav singer in fact), Marshall Crenshaw (is he the perfect power pop artist or what), Michael Nesmith (more a father of country rock than Gram Parsons in my book), and Embrace (the most uplifting espouser of the 90s Britpop sound) amongst others. Extraordinary albums by Tugboat Annie (Jimmy Eat World at it's best) and Plastiscene (Oasis, Bowie, Stone Roses, and John Lennon shot off in space) are records I could never listen to enough. I just need to carve out some time to post some of my finds here.
Big kudos to my bro MaddogTim for directing me here. I promise, I will not rag on ya!
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Post by sleepwalker24 on Sept 29, 2010 13:41:24 GMT -5
I can't understand how the Kinks are so underrated when they had so many brilliant songs,some people seem to regard them as just a 60s singles band.Seems like they were often ahead of their time
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